Alarm problem

par **Sam** » 18 Janvier 2007, 01:04

I got my 207 "GT" Hdi deliverd in the beginning of November. I order it with an alarm that was quite expensive that the dealer installed.

Since then there has been nothing but trouble with the alarm. At the moment it's disconnected and the manufacturer (DEFA www.defa.com) is trying to sort the problem out. They've said that it should be fixed in the next couple of weeks but I don't know what to think about that..

I've been in contact with the best ICE-company here in Stockholm that installs alarms and they told me that at the moment no one in Sweden could install an alarm in the 207. They said that Peugeot has put a block in the electrial system that made it impossible to install after markets alarms.

I wonder if this is realy true? Have anyone had the same problem? Does someone have an functioning alarm in his 207?

par **HarikenRed** » 18 Janvier 2007, 11:13

In France and in some other european countries, the alarm is an option on the 207. This one is connected to the BSI of the 207. It isn't like an ordinary aftermarket alarm!

This "block" on the electrical system is the BSI, I think. It isn't there to avoid any other alarm installation, the structure of new cars is like this now.
And that's clear that normal aftermarket alarms are not so easy to install now (for example, the blinkers are not so easy to connect, because of bulb failure sensors, and so on....).

par **Sam** » 18 Janvier 2007, 12:45

Thats sounds lika a good explanation to my problems. What do you think the chances are that they will make my alarm work correctly?

Do you know what the "original" alarm costs in France? I paid almost 8000 sek for mine (900 euro...)

par **HarikenRed** » 18 Janvier 2007, 12:56

The original alarm with "superlocking system" option for the 207 costs "only" 300€!

Well, about yours, it's difficult to say, I don't know its electric schematic.
But anyway, an stadart alarm must fit with the volumetric sensors and a siren.
About the door contacts, the warning blinkers and automatic door closing, I'm not so sure, but an alarm can already work without those 3 features...

par **Sam** » 18 Janvier 2007, 13:32

HarikenRed a écrit:The original alarm with "superlocking system" option for the 207 costs "only" 300€!

That's a good price... wonder why this option doen't exist in Sweden??? :mad:

Well, they've got the alarm working fine, but after a couple of week the alarm dies and onlys makes a loud clicking sound all the time... very strange.

par **HarikenRed** » 18 Janvier 2007, 13:53

Sam a écrit:
That's a good price... wonder why this option doen't exist in Sweden???

Well, they've got the alarm working fine, but after a couple of week the alarm dies and onlys makes a loud clicking sound all the time... very strange.

Maybe because there are no thieves in Sweden?

I've just seen there is the DEFA CAN model. Is it this one which is installed in your 207?
I don't see any vehicle compatibility list. But for example, if it works on a 307 (after 2005), a 407, Citroen C4,... it should work on the 207 too!

About the clicks, it seems that your central unit is dead, then there is a warranty!

par **Sotiris Bouzikos** » 18 Janvier 2007, 14:24

It doesn't matter if the name of the circuit is BSI or everythink else.All that systems is CAN BUS.If the installer knows what to do then there is no problem at all.You can install anything you want of course if it is can bus technology.There is enough solutions in the market that you can do your job and in some cases even if you have that complicate system you can install a normall-non can bus-alarm to your vehicle but the installer MUST know what to do otherwise the problem that you'll find will be maybe bigger than you expect(diagnostics,main ECU etc.).
A really good solution is its mother :lol:

alarm with hyperlock as Harikenred said before :bien:

par **Sam** » 18 Janvier 2007, 14:42

HarikenRed a écrit:About the clicks, it seems that your central unit is dead, then there is a warranty!

I will check tonight what alarm I've got, I think it is the can version and thats why it was so expensive.

I know... I've alreade changed the central unit once. The first time I hade my car at workshop the it was making false alarm, then they changed the grounding point. The second time it was making the clicking sound, then they changed the central unit. But after one week it was the same problem and then they just disconnected the alarm and the manufacturer is working to solve the problem. So my car has killed two central units in one month

As I said, I've spooken to the bast larm installation company here in Sthockholm and they said they couldn't install any alarm on my 207...

par **HarikenRed** » 18 Janvier 2007, 14:50

Sam a écrit:As I said, I've spooken to the bast larm installation company here in Sthockholm and they said they couldn't install any alarm on my 207...

But what is the reason for them?

Maybe there is a possibility to import the official spare parts of the 207's alarm, and your official Peugeot dealer can install it! All the plugs must be normalized, it shouldn't so difficult for them to install it. After this, a small reprogrammation with PPS2000, then you have a clean system...

par **tiger** » 18 Janvier 2007, 14:54

Yes the alarm of the 207 can be mounted after, but i think you loose the overlock system

par **Sam** » 18 Janvier 2007, 15:09

HarikenRed a écrit:But what is the reason for them?

They said that they hade got a test unit that didn't work and the reason for that was that Peugeot had put an block in the system. And that sounds very strange to me... I can try to call a different larm installation company and se if I get the same answer.

I just said that I had a Peugeot 207 and wondered if he could install a larm in it. "No for the moment no one can" was the answer I got.

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